@mommy2beagain you've not offended me. What you've said is your opinion and you're entitled to it! You're most definately not the first person to disagree with my lifestyle. Yes I'm VERY happy with my relationship.
Ok I dont believe in religion I believe in having a personal relationship with God. Meaning being able to get down on my.knees and praying and talkin to him just like I would talk to any normal person. I believe in spiritual battles between good and evil angels and demons and the devil. I believe that everyone has a struggle in life to live a "good" life and follow Gods rules right? And also that the devil and his minion are always there to attemp and tarnish that all the time. Well when I said a person being influenced and I really dont start nothing cuz we all sin can mean being either influenced by good or evil even when you dont know that you are. Sheesh im tired of typing I.hope u get me. Even if you dont I love you all anyways lol
@mommy2beagain what you are saying is what I grew up getting ridiculed over my whole life. I don't believe people were taught to be gay or they choose to be gay. Why would someone choose a life that is hard, causes depression, and leads at times to suicide? People used to think because my mom is gay that I was too. Its life, no one is perfect and there are flaws and beauty in each of us. If a gay or lesbian couple wants to shower love on a child who are we to say no.
@mommy2beagain i respect that a lot. My family n my bfs family r christian n believe in wat u do. I was jus looking for answers to the questions i had asked but it seems like u cannot provide them. Its cool, good luck wit the pregnancy
@jenn_929 thanks yea my mom always told me to stand firm for what I believe in but to never dare and disrespect someone just because they dont agree. Dont u notice that opinions wether right or wrong is what makes the world go round? Lol
Ok so to clarify on one thing I.said with influences not only human but also non human influences. Ex the spiritual part of it all. The part that many cant see unless they establish that relationship With God. God is love you know? Thats why eventho we are sinners he forgives us and loves us. Its just hard to live a rightious life we all struggle. Many wont understand what im sayin but I believe in the power of prayer fasting and deliveration. Its confusing but real. By the way I soooo need a nap right now.
@neek I don't think it should be a big deal, if you both love your munchkin then that should be enough. I see that the same way I do young moms to be (like my self) you can wait to have a baby when your 30 and still not be good at it, whether its man & woman, woman & woman, man & man being a parent is a full commitment, even in what many see as "typical" that can fail. If you think this is a good decision for your baby then do it. As long as its happy, loved & cared for....who cares?
@mommy2beagain i understand u. But not everyine believes in a spiritual influence so they wouldnt be influence by something they dnt believe nor see. And if he loves us all then everything should be ok:) including same sex marriage and parenthood, bcuz he forgives it all. And its his word ACCORDING to the person who wrote it which im sure had some influence on it. Have a good nap:)
@jessica28 thx. Im jus trying to fully understand her logic bcuz i cant speak about this with ppl i kno bcuz its too touchy of a subject n they refuse to talk once i ask questions like the ones i did.
@proudmommie627 sometimes logic isn't something that can be explained in a way we understand. It is a touchy subject and I may have seemed defensive, but that is so not the case. It's an interesting subject and I enjoy the debate of it. I know no matter what's said on either side, it's not in the least going to change me. My wife and I have two beautiful healthy girls (one we conceived together) with a healthy baby on the way (we also conceived this one together). I cannot imagine my life without my girls! I'm so excited to be experiencing the pregnancy and look forward to giving birth!
@almost4 oh no dont worry about it! Were all entitled to our opinions and all of you have made ur point. This will always be a touchy topic it just take mature ladies like us to express our opinions without being desrespectful and hurtful to one another. I completely respect each and every single opinion on here and im none to say that anyone of them is wrong. I look forward to more constructive discussions like this one.
@jessica28 congratulations! Im sure u have a beautiful family n u really seem so happy n to me thats all that matters! N it is very interesting n i also like to debate! But as long as i feel like someone can provide some real reason to their beliefs im fine and respect it. N ur rite, this debate wont change the eay anyone thinks which is fine by me cuz that wasnt my intent lol n im not gay but i kno too many ppl that are (including family) so it is my natural reaction to stand up for them bcuz i kno wat they r truly feeling, i dnt go off wat i think goes thru the gay mind. n personally a kid being raised in a same sex home will probably learn to be more loving and accepting of everyone n wat they like than a kid who is in a "normal" home bcuz i kno ppl who raise their children to be very hateful to ppl who r different and it jus makes me so sad
@jessica28 so true! I dnt even discuss religion or politics with my family, not even my boyfriend. Some people jus dnt keep open minds. Btw i dnt discuss politics AT ALL! Lol i feel too strongly about things to share them
@proudmommie627 anyone can screw up a kid wether they are gay, straight, bi, transgender or whatever. Sexuality in my opinion, doesn't have any bearing on how you raise a child! Congrats to you as well and thank you!
@proudmommie627 my wifes best friend and us have totally polar opposite opinions on politics. She doesn't believe in gay marriage and on and on, but she loves my wife like a sister. We've just agreed to disagree!
@jessica28 agreed!! Some people i kno dnt think that way tho n are very ignorant about things as if a same sex couple will teach their kid to become gay frm the age of 3. Thats absurd. Even grown women in my family think that way n it is so sad wat they teach their children. n thx a lot:)
One misconception that begs to be addressed is that just because a Christian disagrees with homosexuality, that does not mean they hate the homosexual. I think so often it's made out to be that way, and that's why everyone gets on the defensive. I'm not sure if the Phelps were mentioned at any point, but I don't consider them Christians whatsoever. Just want to make that clear. Although it is considered an abomination in God's eyes, He still wants us to love that person.
Furthermore, I realize that I am in the minority here, but disagreeing with it doesn't make our opinion invalid just because it is based on our religious belief(s). We were asked our opinions on the subject, so that shouldn't require 20 questions to be answered about why we disagree, but I notice it happening purely because our belief(s) aren't parallel with what's socially acceptable today.
I accept each person's opinion on it as we're all separate people with a plethora of views, which is what makes us beautifully unique.
@jessica28 thanks and same to you!. @proudmommie627 I understand how u feel cuz I myself have gay family members and friends and I may disagree with some choices but im not closed minded like many idiots out in the world who go out to the extreme of hurting and even killing people just because they think their views are right and thats it. Ive found myself deffending gay friends and family because no matter our differences we are all human. Closed minded people suck. Lol hope all is well with ur pregnancy too.
@proudmommie627 that's a crock but made me laugh! I actually don't want my kids to be gay. It's hard, but I will love them regardless. As parents we don't want to see our"babies" hurt ever. Btw our 8yr old girl has a super bad boy crush! She's entitled to love whomever she so desires!
@mommy2beagain u come off as a person who disagrees but is NOT hateful which i really respect bcuz as i said i cannot speak about this with most people so i do thank u for giving ur opinions. N i dnt blame anything for wat they grew up on or hav been taught like religion. N yea people are insane n go to the extreme of doing thosr things bcuz they feel its so wrong for someone to love who they csnt help but love. Its so sad. n thx my pregnancy is going great!
@proudmommie627 glad you asked lol yes she's very religious. Plus extremely republican. Not saying there is anything wrong with being republican. Her friend is pretty cool tho. We had a huge argument a couple years ago, but lifes to short. Her and my wife grew up together. They have history that goes beyond religion and politics. She's one of the only people I trust our kids with. I also have to say I don't believe in gay marriage either!
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And its his word ACCORDING to the person who wrote it which im sure had some influence on it.
Have a good nap:)
n im not gay but i kno too many ppl that are (including family) so it is my natural reaction to stand up for them bcuz i kno wat they r truly feeling, i dnt go off wat i think goes thru the gay mind.
n personally a kid being raised in a same sex home will probably learn to be more loving and accepting of everyone n wat they like than a kid who is in a "normal" home bcuz i kno ppl who raise their children to be very hateful to ppl who r different and it jus makes me so sad
n thx a lot:)
Furthermore, I realize that I am in the minority here, but disagreeing with it doesn't make our opinion invalid just because it is based on our religious belief(s). We were asked our opinions on the subject, so that shouldn't require 20 questions to be answered about why we disagree, but I notice it happening purely because our belief(s) aren't parallel with what's socially acceptable today.
I accept each person's opinion on it as we're all separate people with a plethora of views, which is what makes us beautifully unique.
n thx my pregnancy is going great!