@mommyforever Good things and bad things happen to me just like everyone else except I do not need a middle man to decipher the outcome . Thanks for the thought but I will never believe. I appreciate your concern but please do not try to convince me.
Alright, you're right its not My job or my place to try and shove my beliefs down your throat. I hope you live a prosperous life and I still have hope that oneday youll change your mind(: @Sheila303
@sheila303 I am with you there I've found my peace and middle men anywhere are not needed its nice ppl are concerned but they have no need to be I run my life not some deiety in the sky the universe gives me what I need my problems are my own not given by some unseen person as are the solutions
Where does your hope come from? What do you have to live for or look forward to? It just seems so empty and meaningless without a Creator with a plan and perfect design. It just makes me sad that you're missing out on hope of an eternal afterlife with the One who made you.
I've learned in life that the most judgmental people are often the most flawed. Rest assured that she's got some dirt now or in her past and that she will be judged for judging you. I know it hurts but I would just forget about her. I hope there are others in your church that are more supportive. Like me! I'm married (and not as judgmental) but a child is a blessing from God so I wish you a happy and healthy pregnancy.
I think talking to your pastor is a good idea because as unfortunate as it is, many church goers are much like their leaders. So if you should get the feeling that he's kind of like she is, I hope you can find another church to be a part of.
My hope comes from me you don't need a religion to be happy me and my daughter are all I need to be hopeful and as for creator I see that as my parients so no way in hell am I ever gonna have a afterlife with them ill have one with my friends but I can't stand my mom and my dad is an abusive ass so no way will I spend any of my joyful afterlife with them
Well good luck then. Hopefully your heart will be softened and you can accept his love, at least for the sake of your children. I hope you can let go of some of your anger and bitter feelings, they're jumping off the page from what you're typing.
@AandK1031 my life is far from empty and meaningless I am very happy I am not angry or sad or hopeless...I know why you feel that way but I do not... I am happily pregnant, engaged, I have a wonderful job and a bright future. If there is a god he knows exactly how I feel and has not reached out to me or punished me. My life is great and I absolutely love who I am :-)
God doesn't punish or cause the problems in the world. Sin does. Sin causes rape, death, hate, pain, emptiness. Those things are not from God. I just felt that point was important to emphasize.
@2_going_on_3 see I'm Catholic too but my church is amazing no one judged me lie I thought they would!! and my sister went to a Catholic school and we would go to basketball games at her school and everyone welcomed me with open arms... but my sister always told me if they give Yu crap tell them that Catholics don't believe in birth control lol I love her..
@jessm22 I'm just curious as to what your thoughts are on the stories of people who have died, gone to heaven, and come back. I just read this amazing book ("heaven is for real") about a little boys story of how he died in the hospital and when he came back had stories about seeing and being with God and other relatives who had passed. This little boy was so young and innocent and would not know to "make up" a story about such things. I'm just wondering what ur take is on that if u truly don't believe in anything??
Lol I was clinically dead from drowning when I was 7 do you know what I rember? I rember nothing there was nothing so that lil boy prolly was coached or so brain washed he'd say anything to make mommy and daddy happy
@Jessm22 I read this late I'm sorry u feel that way.. catholics do not drown babys eithr we also only sprinkle water... and I didn't not mean people who are not baptized go to hell I'm just repeating what Jesus said I believe it but not everyone has to but I personally don't belive if ur not baptized you'll go to hell god does not punish either he is loving and forgiving I'm baptizing my sons to practice my religion because I belive in this.. in my church they teach us how every religion has different thoughts of god and his rules but like the world their different opinions and beliefs and its ok... I belive if some one has stolen raped murderd ect.. they have sinned duh but I've also ben tought god is forgiving as long as you accept him.. u don't have to belive the same thing I do but please do not asume stuff like that..
@jessm22 so just b/c u didn't experience that makes it impossible? Like I said, the boy was 4 years old and started telling them what he experienced like it was no big deal. I find it hard to believe u can coach a 4 yr old into describing relatives he hadn't ever met, or describing what god looks like when he hadn't ever seen a pic. When my son was just beginning to talk he had mentioned something about my grandma one day how she would talk to him and play with him...my grandma who passed away 5 yrs earlier who nobody ever mentioned to him. How do u explain a toddler knowing someone who he never met, when no one has ever talked about that person before? In my opinion I have no doubts about happenings such as these, and I'm not trying to convince u, I just can't understand how one could not believe in anything.
@ms_wainright I would talk to the pastor maybe he can talk to her or if u prefer not to just ignore her she must think she's better than everyone and that's negativity u don't want to b around anyways good luck:)
@2_Going_on_3 I read ur comment that god parnets need to be marrief by church..its weird cuz I got two god sons of baptize and am not married....werid huh
I'm not a religious person but I'm spiritual I believe in a god but I don't go along with any specific religion. We had a friend who's 3 yr old came up to them one day (their biological child) and said you're much nicer than my chinese parents wew. The kid had never seen or heard of a chinese person at that point. Makes you wonder.
I had a lady at 930 at night stop me infront of walmart it was a cold night and had her 2yr old standin out in a nightgown and no socks and she started pushing her religion on me don't remember which one any basically told me my family was going to hell because we didn't go to church and that we had to pray in a group or it didn't count. I responded we do pray in a group a group of 4 then I asked if all the people in the old days when everything was so spread out and u only had horses or your feet to get aywhere so u couldn't always get to a church espically if there wasn't 1 went to hell she just stared at me mouth open I left her standin there goin um well um
Don't worry about the negativity. Your happy, and that's all that counts. If they " disowned" you than they weren't your friends from the beginning. Never let anyone bring you down. I have a lot of family who have a lot to say but they forget about all the wrongs they have in their life. I consider a baby a blessing even if it doesn't seem so now. You will come to realize you and your baby come first so stop worrying about what your church group thinks.
Im atheist and there's not a Damn thing wrong with that. We believe what we believe. I don't need to go to church or read the bible to believe there is something bigger out there. No one is going to push religion down my throat. My grandfather is a minister at a Baptist church and other side is Roman Catholics. I get pesteredconstantly, from both families. It's hilarious to me cause both of my grandmothers are super religious yet they were knocked up and married out of wedlock. So they r the last people who can tell me how to live my life. At least I have a man and we are in love, I wouldn't change a thing.
Your church should except you for who you are. Only Jesus was perfect!!! Remind her of the story of the sinner and thee with no sin may cast the first stone! She isnt perfect either and has sinned and you never turned your back on her. Its called life.
My hubby felt the same when we were pregnant with our 1st and not married yet. I was really sick and he took my 3 older kids to church, the pastors message was how messed up the world is and one of his comments was about people having babies out of wedlock. He took it personally. We didnt go to church for a while, but I made him realize it wasnt toward him. Our church has been so helpful. With our now 3rd pregnancy they have helped with housework and kids when I was on bedrest and providing us with meals. And when I'm in the hospital the pastor always finds time to come see me! You should go talk to your pastor, I doubt the whole church feels the way your 1 so called friend feels!
Ok, I'm not going to state my religious/spiritual beliefs on this thread to avoid unnecessary comments, because my message is for the OP.
If you feel like you're being judged by your peers at church simply for having a baby while you aren't married, just ignore them. Talk to your pastor and if he has only bad things to say, find another church. There are churches full of loving people who realize that they have no right to judge you for something so outdated.
@jayden_mommy21 lol yeah but I'm catholic n if u baptize with ur bd they won't let u u have to show your marriage license from the church or whatever they give them I never got married but u can also be a god parent w/o being married if the other godparent is not your spouse example brother uncle dad... my 2 sons will b baptized by my aunt n uncle n they of course arnt married lol gross haha but I dnt knw if it is different in other religions but I knw a lot of different churches that say that's a requirement cuz I wantd my sistr n het husband to baptize them but they can't because they are only married by court...???... R u catholic?
Im not married also and on my second child!!! it bothered me also and my dad is a minister...its hard but no one judged me...at least not to my face or showed any sign of it in my presence...the only big deal they made was me having a baby shower at the church...and the only one who made a big deal about that was my daddy himself...but im scared now to tell them about this one...ugh its really bothering but in the end i know it will be ok...and it will be the same for you...all of us have sinned and fallen short...there is no big sin or little sin so if i were you i wouldnt worry about it...you can simply just go to another church if it bothers you alot...All of sin point blank...thats why jesus died for us because he knew we were going to mess up every once in awhile...people are just going to be that way...all judgemental but the only person who really matters is God and if you asked him to forgive you, then your already forgiving...and thats all the matters!
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I think talking to your pastor is a good idea because as unfortunate as it is, many church goers are much like their leaders. So if you should get the feeling that he's kind of like she is, I hope you can find another church to be a part of.
I read ur comment that god parnets need to be marrief by church..its weird cuz I got two god sons of baptize and am not married....werid huh
I had a lady at 930 at night stop me infront of walmart it was a cold night and had her 2yr old standin out in a nightgown and no socks and she started pushing her religion on me don't remember which one any basically told me my family was going to hell because we didn't go to church and that we had to pray in a group or it didn't count. I responded we do pray in a group a group of 4 then I asked if all the people in the old days when everything was so spread out and u only had horses or your feet to get aywhere so u couldn't always get to a church espically if there wasn't 1 went to hell she just stared at me mouth open I left her standin there goin um well um
My hubby felt the same when we were pregnant with our 1st and not married yet. I was really sick and he took my 3 older kids to church, the pastors message was how messed up the world is and one of his comments was about people having babies out of wedlock. He took it personally. We didnt go to church for a while, but I made him realize it wasnt toward him. Our church has been so helpful. With our now 3rd pregnancy they have helped with housework and kids when I was on bedrest and providing us with meals. And when I'm in the hospital the pastor always finds time to come see me! You should go talk to your pastor, I doubt the whole church feels the way your 1 so called friend feels!
If you feel like you're being judged by your peers at church simply for having a baby while you aren't married, just ignore them. Talk to your pastor and if he has only bad things to say, find another church. There are churches full of loving people who realize that they have no right to judge you for something so outdated.
R u catholic?