And I can tell ya what happened to love marriage then the baby carriage! People don't take marriage seriously anymore the divorce rates are sky high so some people just don't believe in marriage anymore
@diverwfe To me it seems like she believes that is the way it should be and I was raised that way but it is not always like that. I was in a horrible marriage that I stayed in for years for my son which was stupid on my part. If he is good to me and we are in love I just do not believe it matters if we are married first.
Lol I have no clue. My dad just said yesterday that most people do it backwards. Have a baby, get a career, and then get married! Our generation is all tore up, lol! It doesn't matter though, I'm happy regardless!
life happend.. not everyone grows up in the kind of enviroment that provides good parental advice .. we usually pick up of our parents morals.. including there thoughts on marrige.. i however dont believe you have to be married to be commited to someone.. nor does it make your relationship more valid.. lol.. lmao! im 27, and my man and i have been together 11 years now.. no marrige.. more years than many couples can sustain a relationship/ marrige.... ugh.. i think its sad when a couple splits and there are kids involved.. wether they are married or not.. its not that i dont believe in marrige.. its more like, i dont think its neccecary.. just my oppinion..
Because they don't think. They just have sex with no real attachments.than they live together and have babies and they are still scared to get married. I mean everything is backwards. If your having babies with someone why not get marrried. Aren't babies biggest commitment ever? Whatever century we are in if women self respected themselves and did things in right order, they wouldn't find themselves in some of the mess and drama that they are in.
If things were done more in an old fashion such as courtship, marriage and than a family , there would not be so many single moms. Off course things might go sour in a marriage too but it is entirely different feeling to be in a marriage. You work thru your problems in a marriage than just walk out.
Some of us are only on here to start drama? Really? Oh wow.. can you please find one thread I have made that bashes people or would cause an uproar.. I did not start any drama. I simply said that was how I read it and asked the op how the two were related. Yes she has the right to say they go hand in hand as do I have the right to say otherwise. I will not get over myself because i have a difference of opinion. Im entitled to it. As for unwed parents on assistance I will say I do agree that the majority of teen moms are unwed and recieve help.. But I dont agree with assuming just because theyre a teen mom means they are welfare recepients who will have nothing but bd issues.
I agree with @ luvbump . It's kind of sad because a young girl just posted earlier about ttc . Now imagine her reading this probably making her feel like shit when this site is supposed to be here to help people. Idk I understand both sides but some people are just rude to just try to prove a point when both sides are never going to agree with each other.....
I have never spoke up on topics untill this one. I keep to myself and enjoy reading posts that are like this one. Ill also ask a question hear and there. So here it goes:
Who are any of you to care what other people do in THEIR lives. You don't know them so why do you care. What about those people who are 25 or 30 still living with mommy or daddy and "fall" pregnant. Just because someone is young doesn't mean they can't be a good parent. I'm 22 and not married, my boyfriend and I have been living together for 3 years and I am 34 weeks pregnant today. I work with infants and toddlers eveyday /all day. I know that's different from being a mother but still. I always thought ide be one to fall in love then get married then have a baby but I met my boyfriend and we TRIED for a baby and boom we got pregnant the first time. Marrage doesn't last these days like it did before. I just watched my parents get divorced- they were married for 30 years. I know your all just giving your take on everything but who's to say at what age you become a good parent. Who's to say what your relationship status is makes you a good parent. Who's to say that your income makes you a good parent.. NO ONE. Only you can choose to be the best parent you can be and hope that your child does good in life no matter what age you are. Just sayin.
@angieahrens I wasn't talking about getting married just because you are pregnant. I was talking about first get to know the person , have mutual relationship, love than married and than having family. It certainly protects women of heartaches and most of the messes they are in. I don't understand the fact that people are together for years , have multiple kids and could not get married. They do everything together already, they are not splitting up so I don't understand why marriage in that situation should be feared.
If couples don't love each other , they should split. I don't have any religious agenda to say divorce is forbidden. Even if you have kids , if you can't work it out, it is better you split and provide healthy enviroment foryourself and for children involved.
I'm sorry you felt that way, I'm sure they had the best intensions to provide you a healthy home.
I am talking in general, not in particular cases such as yourself. I read in pregly all the time about this baby daddy concept and most of them walking out. It makes me think if some of these women invested more time in a relationship and did things in order, results they have will be completely different. They wouldn't have perhaps split up before baby was involved.
Okay everyone wants to talk about facts and statistics? Lets talk about single moms and their age groups for a second. According to the www.census.gov There are .2 million divorced mothers under the age of 20 there are .5 million single never married moms under the age of 20 compared to.... 4.2 million single divorced mothers between the ages of 20-39 And the 5.1 million single unwed mothers between the ages of 20-39
7.6 million of these moms make under 20k a year. Remember there is only. 7 million moms under the age of 20. It seems its not only teens that are having issues with having kids they cant support. Because 6 out of 10 of these moms live below povery guidelines.
Oh and get this according to statistics, your child is more likely to recieve a better life if they live with their father.
Really noww?? Just give it up. You all could make this crap go on forever! How about go answer some other posts that acttually are lookin for advise instead of spending hours at a time bickering. You've all made ur points now leave it at that gosh damn! Its just making some of u look silly now. 8-|
@luvbump ohh my goodness you gonna start your own documentery trying to prove a point.
@angieahrens it doesn't offend me at all. In fact anyones lifestyle doesn't offend me. I just want women to simply protect themselves and make better choices. Most of them are influenced by media that now its ok to have sex at young age . Its just not. It messes a girl in a very bad way to have sex at a young age. They just cling onto these wrong men and it goes on. Just like that show 16 and pregnant and I hate that show because people just watch their misery and mtv claims they are teaching young people , they are just getting ratings and that's all.
If anyone is going to teach young people it should be parents and not by preaching but giving them stable homes with mom and dad present( being the right role model) and only way to establish that home enviroment is doing things in a right way. Again I'm not particularly talking for ur situation but most of america who just mock old ways and thinks marriage is pointless.
@ashturs lol im just saying, i dont think everyone should be so concentrated on teen pregnancy when we have more grown women having babies that they cant take care of compared to teens... But its okay because theyre adults.. And by the way it is staticstically proven that a child raised in a home with both parents(married) 75% of them parents are older have more of an education and have more money...
Well next time I have a song or phrase in my head, n a tv show on I'll refrain from posting on here. I'll just go back to cafemom or something were people don't assume u r saying something ur not. Woe n wow talk about blowing shit out of the water. I personally have been with my hubs since age 14 I turn 30 next month: married at 21 we r having our 4th child all conceived after marriage. I just wonder if luvbump had data too in abortion rates for all these groups? It's just ashame that one simple line can make so much fuss....does that show maturity level, age, stability, attitude, guilt I myself don't know. But I do know what was right for me n the lifestyle I want my family to have. But seriously move the duck on my original post is not at all what someone blew it up to be. Ugh get over it
Lmao for ur info I didnt blow it up to be anything. As i previously stated I asked you how they were relevant to eachother which u never replied. If you werent willing to clarify then how am I suppose to know what you were talking about?. I simply said this is how it came off.. There have been numerous comments directed towards me and all of my replies were directed at them. Not you.
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If things were done more in an old fashion such as courtship, marriage and than a family , there would not be so many single moms. Off course things might go sour in a marriage too but it is entirely different feeling to be in a marriage. You work thru your problems in a marriage than just walk out.
I did not start any drama. I simply said that was how I read it and asked the op how the two were related. Yes she has the right to say they go hand in hand as do I have the right to say otherwise. I will not get over myself because i have a difference of opinion. Im entitled to it.
As for unwed parents on assistance I will say I do agree that the majority of teen moms are unwed and recieve help.. But I dont agree with assuming just because theyre a teen mom means they are welfare recepients who will have nothing but bd issues.
Who are any of you to care what other people do in THEIR lives. You don't know them so why do you care. What about those people who are 25 or 30 still living with mommy or daddy and "fall" pregnant. Just because someone is young doesn't mean they can't be a good parent. I'm 22 and not married, my boyfriend and I have been living together for 3 years and I am 34 weeks pregnant today. I work with infants and toddlers eveyday /all day. I know that's different from being a mother but still. I always thought ide be one to fall in love then get married then have a baby but I met my boyfriend and we TRIED for a baby and boom we got pregnant the first time. Marrage doesn't last these days like it did before. I just watched my parents get divorced- they were married for 30 years. I know your all just giving your take on everything but who's to say at what age you become a good parent. Who's to say what your relationship status is makes you a good parent. Who's to say that your income makes you a good parent.. NO ONE. Only you can choose to be the best parent you can be and hope that your child does good in life no matter what age you are. Just sayin.
If couples don't love each other , they should split. I don't have any religious agenda to say divorce is forbidden. Even if you have kids , if you can't work it out, it is better you split and provide healthy enviroment foryourself and for children involved.
I'm sorry you felt that way, I'm sure they had the best intensions to provide you a healthy home.
I am talking in general, not in particular cases such as yourself. I read in pregly all the time about this baby daddy concept and most of them walking out. It makes me think if some of these women invested more time in a relationship and did things in order, results they have will be completely different. They wouldn't have perhaps split up before baby was involved.
Lets talk about single moms and their age groups for a second.
According to the www.census.gov
There are .2 million divorced mothers under the age of 20
there are .5 million single never married moms under the age of 20
compared to....
4.2 million single divorced mothers between the ages of 20-39
And the 5.1 million single unwed mothers between the ages of 20-39
7.6 million of these moms make under 20k a year. Remember there is only. 7 million moms under the age of 20. It seems its not only teens that are having issues with having kids they cant support. Because 6 out of 10 of these moms live below povery guidelines.
Oh and get this according to statistics, your child is more likely to recieve a better life if they live with their father.
@angieahrens it doesn't offend me at all. In fact anyones lifestyle doesn't offend me. I just want women to simply protect themselves and make better choices. Most of them are influenced by media that now its ok to have sex at young age . Its just not. It messes a girl in a very bad way to have sex at a young age. They just cling onto these wrong men and it goes on. Just like that show 16 and pregnant and I hate that show because people just watch their misery and mtv claims they are teaching young people , they are just getting ratings and that's all.
If anyone is going to teach young people it should be parents and not by preaching but giving them stable homes with mom and dad present( being the right role model) and only way to establish that home enviroment is doing things in a right way. Again I'm not particularly talking for ur situation but most of america who just mock old ways and thinks marriage is pointless.
There have been numerous comments directed towards me and all of my replies were directed at them. Not you.