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I am a firm believer in the spiritual world. Angels, demons, good, evil, god, satan, hevan, hell, etc. Well my bd isn't..whatsoever. he doesn't believe in good, evil, god, satan, etc. Well he was messing around with the ouiji board with his friends. And was reading the satanic bible for shits and giggles. I told him I wasn't comfortable with him messing with evil shit, BECAUSE I know what can happen. You can't mess with that shit and expect anything good to come of it. Well he was going to an old haunted insain assylum that has been vacant for years with his friends and doing the ouiji board. He then took wall paper that he has found from there and old pictures and using them with it. My mom, who has practiced wiccan and santaria, as well as christianity and buddhism even told him to stop while he was ahead, and he didn't listen. Well last night, he texted me saying he was shooken up. He told me he had seen something "so interesting and terrifying at the same time. I can't look at any reflections because I'm scared of what I may see again" he also told me that his friend had been complaining that he feels so dark and empty and not his self anymore. Like he just feels different. I'm pregnant, and freaking out. I don't want that shit around my child. Babies are so incredibly sensitive to that kind of shit and I'm not bringing my child into this world to be subjected to evil. I told bd that I was him to get blessed and cleansed. And he said he didn't want to. Sorry, but idk if I can be with him if he doesn't get it done. This is one thing I am NOT willing to comprimise on. We are supposed to be getting another apartment together In november, but idk if I want to move in with him if he still has this shit with him. Its not okay, nor will it ever be with me. And he doesn't understand why I'm so upset about it. HELLO YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THE SHIT I HAVE SEEN UNTIL LAST NIGHT!! I've seen good and evil in people before, and in spirits before. I am very well protected, and I need him to be as well as our baby. Like I said, I'm not willing to comprimise this one. Sorry so long but I need to get it out somewhere..
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  • I would be so annoyed. I am a christian I personally believe that when you open yourself up to stuff like that weird stuff can happen. I don't know how to say it but I know god protects me I also don't go out looking for trouble. But anyways my husband is an atheist it makes me sad but he always respect my views and wouldn't bring any of his non beliver ideas around our home. I pray every day he will see the light. Lol that sounds so corny. He is slowly coming around its hard to not believe in a higher power when have children and see miracles happen every day. So is it baby or babys daddy you want cleansed??? Is he not for it? I say stand your ground and tell him to stop looking for trouble you have enough to worry about.
  • I'm with you on that one. I don't mess with the "dark side" in fear that those things will follow you. I don't believe you can mess with it one day and that's it, just like you said. I stay far from it. The closest I will get to that is a scary movie and I'm very choosey with what I watch. I don't blame you for being uncomfortable around him now. I'm a firm believer in that stuff too and something can be wth him. He seriously needs to be cleansed. Like you said you don't need your baby around that stuff.
  • @kaloresxcierre yeah, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about with my family. That and my great grandma has drawn eveil spirits from people before. she was (to me) very old and frigile and very old school mexican woman but she knew what she was messing with. & @babybubba123111 What bothers me the most is that he thinks nothing of it..even after last night. He says "its just a state of mind that he fell into, and needs to get out of". That there isn't such thing as evil or good. He doesn't know what he's messing with and he's very ignorant to it. He asked for my moms help, but just for his friend. I told him that he needs it too and he dissagrees. I think I may have to give him an ultimatum because I am not willing to be subjected to that kind of evil. Or what ever is following him.
  • You are in the right. He needs to do what ever he needs to to make you comfortable. Hopefully he learns his lesson.
  • I feel ya. My bfs house has had some activity. Last week his cousin was scared by something and he thought it would be "fun" to bring a quija board to try to see what was there. I said "hell no!" Not in my future house u are not, I dont feel safe opening portals when my baby will live in that house. When I was small my brother played with the board in my childhood home and it was never the same, I too know what can happen from experience. The house I live in now has activity but I just dont feel scared of it, they seem harmless but the feeling I got at my childhood home was way different, I always felt creeped out.
  • @Socalmomma2boys yeah I totally understand. I'm not for or against any religion EXCEPT for worshiping the devil and crap. Which bd would never do, but still. I want both of them clensed and blessed. Like I said, babies are so sensitive to the spiritual world and I'm not willing to risk of anything transfering to my child from him if he choses not to get cleansed and blessed.
  • @excitedforoctober & @ll10 yeah, that stuff scares me. I don't mess with it and I never will. My brothers also did the board at my old house and everything changed. My bd has also been very different since he's started to mess with that shit. I can see it in his eyes. He says nothing is different, but his actions and such say otherwise.
  • Seriously if its to the point where he doesnt even want to look in the mirror in fear of what be looking back at him then something is wrong. He needs to wake the hell up. Ugh *shudders* thats the kind of stuff you see in horror movies these days and to have it in your own house???? Yes, an ultimatum is needed, just be prepared for the outcome
  • @babybubba123111 exactly...we don't live together right now, but are planning to in november. But like I said I don't even want that around ME. He wants to stay over tonight, but idk if I want him to.
  • Well girl..lol..idk not to scare you but I couldnt do it. I would give him some space. If he came over I would literally stay up. I wouldnt be able to sleeo. But thats just me. Hopefully youre not a scaredy cat like me. After I saw Paranormal Activity I was up all night I had to sleep with the lights abd tv on...smh but seriously Im really not trying to put bad thought in your head but to me this is serious. He really needs to get something done.
  • I wouldn't let him stay over. Let him know he neeeds to address this issue.
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    Not cool! I grew up in a house that was haunted. Both me and my mom had glass break by us when nobody else was in the room. Mine was a candle holder and hers was a cake plate. My grandma felt like she was being watched and followed throughout the house when she was alone. My cousin actually saw the spirit of a young man that was so realistic that she asked him who he was before he looked at her and walked away. Both me and my best friend have seen the same apparition of a rotting face. I've been scratched and poked in the eyes too.
    I don't like talking about those experiences or even admitting that I've ever had an experience like that. It's scary stuff. If your bf is too frightened to look in a mirror, something is wrong and he needs some kind of help. Like I said, it's scary stuff!
  • I've only seen a shadow person at the edge of my bed. They turn the lights off on me in my current house. And at my bfs house I have heard a little girls giggle. At my childhood home spirits used to knock inside my closet. It used to piss me off!
  • If he is looking at his refection and seeing something other then him, he is posessed. As scarey as this will sound, if he doesn't get whatever is inside of him out asap, it will make him do horrible things. He is not he...and it only gets worse from here. I am so sorry!!! :-( ...in my experience and knowledge, he needs help like yesterday...
  • Uhh ya . That's some serious shit. And I wouldn't have it either. My husband does not necessarily believe it cause he has never experienced it. I recently have been hearing knocking on my door and seeing shadows at night and I'm wondering cause I've always had something following me in Idaho and Oregon.. I'm in north Carolina and I wonder if it follows me everywhere. It's never been harmful but it still scares me :(
  • As a wiccan u need cleanse him or around where u live! Shit like this pisses me off! Not only does it affect him, but it can transfer to ppl surrounding him.... I recommend looking at cleasing spells or talk to his mom for help.
  • edited August 2011
    yea I'm not completely sure if I've ever experienced anything like you guys but I do believe everything u guys are saying. When I was a kid, I remember sleeping iwhen I woke up and saw someone whom I thought was my grandmother open the door and peek in on me. they watched me for a bit and turned to walk away. They were wearing a blue robe like my grandmothers and walking down the hall into my grandmothers bedroom, so I jumped out of bed, calling out "grandma wait up" as I followed them into my grandmothers bedroom, but they never stopped walking and never turned around. When I got there, nobody was in the room. It was empty. So I went downstairs to the kitchen and my grandmother was cooking breakfast wearing a burgandy robe. I then found out that my deceased great grandmother had given my grandmother that blue robe before she died. When I try to tell my fam about it they think I'm making it up or that I was probably dreaming.
    Recently I was home alone just me and my dog. There's a room across the hall from my bedroom which I plan on turning into my nursery for my son. I was lying in bed with my dog when the door across the hall, which was cracked open to begin with, opened a bit wider...then a few moments later, closed back on its own. My dog and I both stared at that door for at least 10 minutes lol like wtf?! did that door really just open and close on its own??? Now i'm not sure if I want my son in there by himself
  • I'm a Christian and I definitely agree with you! He needs to be blessed and cleansed and so does his friends...Lord only knows what's following them or even possibly possessing them. I'm a nurse also and have seen demonic possession first hand in the hospital. VERY FREAKY! the doctors actually called a priest to come in! And that kind of evil can be sensed also..its such an uneasy feeling that makes the hair stand up on ur neck! I also agree babies are way sensitive to stuff like that. I don't blame u for giving an ultimatum. In my opinion I would have a pastor or priest come in and anoint your house and especially the baby room.
  • @jess8d my mom has practiced wiccan and is going to help him. He just needs to get a white and black candle first.

    @everyone else. Yeah, I don't agree with his choices what so ever and will never live with him if he doesn't get cleansed. Nor will I let him handle his child until then or touch my stomach. I may sound over the top..but I don't take these things lightly. At all.
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  • You are right kids are definitely more sensitive to spirits good and bad. My daughter used to see my father who passed away when she was 9months. And we even think she saw the angels of death around him right before he died. Spirits are very real. And your right he needs to be prayed over. Pray over him while he is sleep....see if that helps.
  • I think ur rite to b concerned. I personally would leave him. I dont play wit that demonic stuff. Playin wit aouiji board is pretty serious stuff. he's opened so m many doors jus from that incident. U dont kno how deep he may already b n or if he's already possessed an if he is possessed to wat degree. Once satan gets a hold of u it's hard to really get him away. I would get away an stay far away especially if he isn't cleansed.
  • Wow! Not meant to piss anyone off but I just find it hard to believe in any of this. Like not letting your bd around the baby cause he played a game?!?! Maybe cause I've never experienced anything like that but idk.
  • Ahhh .. my old apartment had activity but my children or myself or husband were nevr harmed. It did throw stuff around my kitchen one night while my husband an I were asleep an we thought somebody was breaking in. We went dwnstairs to check an my kitchen was a disaster.. I'm a wimp anyway so evrything like this scares the shit outa me. I was reading this thread on my phone an my phone rang an I jumpd an possibly peed a little lol but seriously, make him do something b4 it gets way outa hand
  • Burn sage. I always find that helpful. I tend to pick up strange energies. They're attracted to me for some reason, but anyway sage is wonderful for cleansing.
  • I'd say sage. I'm not really in agreeance with keeping someone away from their child because of it, but if it makes you feel safer, than do what you need to. Remember mind over matter. Good luck mama.
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  • Having said that, I'm not sure that you are in any danger. Being pagan, I do not believe true possession exists. I do believe , however, that some people are open to the idea and think That they are possessed when they're not. Kinda like when I was trying to conceive, I kept thinking I was having pregnancy symptoms because I was so open and willing for it to happen. Maybe Have him reach out to someone spiritually such As a priest, etc depending on his religion and they can offer insight
  • That's definitely some scary shit and I dont blame u for feelin that way! Hopefully he understands ur concerns! God bless you mama!
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