can someone answer me this....

edited September 2011 in Pregnant
I was just thinking..
Why do some women think its okay to keep their child away from its father when the father is completely able to care for the baby just as much as they are our vice versa??

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WHO DON'T MAKE AN EFFORT OR AREN'T CAPABLE TO CARE FOR A CHILD. THOSE ARE UNDERSTANDABLE.

I'm talking about the women/men who purposely keep the child away from the other parent out of spite JUST to hurt the other parent....

I honestly do not get it....no matter how much I would hate my bd if he cheated on me, left me for another woman, or just broke up with me for the hell of it..I would never keep his child away from him. Nothing he could do to our relationship (unless I were affraid for my life, etc) would ever effect the relationship between him and his daughter..everrrrr. HIM messing his relationship up with her is his problem. But I wouldn't be the cause of it.

OF COURSE THERE ARE ALWAYS ACCEPTIONS. BUT I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WHO DO IT TO HURT THE OTHER PARENT/THE GET BACK AT THEM/ETC. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO POST SAYING SOMETHING OTHERWISE TO TRY TO DEFEND YOURSELF, DON'T. CAUSE CHANCES ARE I'M NOT EVEN REFERING TO YOU, OR YOUR SITUATION. And honestly, you don't have to defend yourself to a stranger. I'm just trying to figure out the logic behind keeping the baby away to mess with the other emotions.
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  • I would never keep my kids away from their dad unless he lived with his parents. They are havey somkers and there has been many cases of marsa there. My olds got marsa twice from there and my little one gets reallly sick from the smoke. Otherwise he's more then welcome to se or have his kids. I guess it depends on why they do what they do
  • @trisha that's understandable. Cause he isn't just as capable to care for them cause he would be risking their health.
    I guess its just the ones who do it cause they are mad at the bd that I don't understand.
  • edited September 2011
    I agree with you. I think it depends on the situation, but I've known men to do the same thing to their exes (my ex-bil does this to my sister all the time). I think that people who do that really want to hurt their ex more than the ex hurt them.

    It's due to a lack of emotional maturity, in my opinion.
  • There are also instances in which the parent who is with holding visitation may be insecure about the child bonding with the other parent's new love interest. Seen that alot too....
  • My sister inlaw. Her little girls daf is like this he has full placement of her and she olny gets her everyother weekend. This was her weekend and he call and told her she that their daughter has a birthday party at 2 and its until 6 but he told the friends mom she could stay over. I would have said no this is my weekend she can go to the party but ill pick her up at 6. Some people. He didn't even want. Her to have her everyother weekend he wanted her to have supervised visits. Men are just as bad as women can be.
  • I agree completely! My baby isnt just mine she needs her daddy too whether I hated his guts or not
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  • I wish I knew, too. My husband has a daughter with another girl, and she says that my husband doesn't want to see his daughter and all kinds of bull shit, but when he does try to, the crazy bitch comes up with some reason that he can't.
    I hate it. We're working on getting court ordered visitation so she can't do this anymore.
  • I moved away. Husbands in the military my daughter dad is in Ohio. Not my problem he didn't cone get her for the summer. He's a felon with a huge drug and violence rap sheet on top of that his little brother molested his step sister ... now the brother has a gf with a son that gropped my daughter. My daughters father threatens ne and wish ill fortune on my unborn son. Scott lewis is a looser d-bags and does not deserve to be near my beautiful daughter so he cab mess with her mind. He even took all her birthday gifts from the family so they didn't mail them to her out here! He never sends her gifts and calls every few months. Yet he loves her so much and she is his life.... piss off and talk to someone who believes ur bs!
  • On the other hand my husband has a son and his mom wont let him see him. My husband has no record pays a ton in support a month and is in the army. My husband is a wonderful man and she's bitter he never wanted to be with her so she treats him horrible. She even moved and changed her number so now we can't send him gifts anymore... we always do... even though we know she doesn't tell him thy r from us...
  • Ugh, I don't understand either! My bf has a 5yr old with his ex and she is completely ridiculous. She ran around on him while they were married and he was deployed to Iraq. He did nothing to her but she still uses their son as a pawn to her sick games. She's a POS and it's heartbreaking to see what it does to my bf. After seeing how she is I vowed that if that is ever the outcome of our situation that I will NEVER do the things she does. Ever!! What do they get out of it? I'll never unserstand!! I do agree that it is circumstantial though.
  • Yeah, like I said, sometimes it is for valid reasons.
    But just to do it out of spite is ridiculous. I feel bad for the baby.
    I know a girl..not woman..GIRL. who does this. Her daughter is one. She will sit there and tell her daughter that she hates her and she disguted by her cause she looks just like her father. Calls her a bitch and a nigger(the baby is part black the mom is pure white) and hits her in the head. She gets 500$ from welfare and 300$ in foodstamps and wastes it all on her self getting her nails done, buying herself stuff and buying alcohol and weed. Then calls her friends 2 weeks into the month for money to buy diapers and formula cause she can't afford it...mind you she lives with her parents and has ZERO bills. And when the bd tries to see her she says no cause she does everything for her child and he doesn't do a damn thing..WELL NO SHIT! You don't let him do a damn thing! People like HER piss me off!
  • That is disgusting. People like that piss me off. She shouldn't even have a child.
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  • @MrsG that's completely different than keeping the child away from the oposite paretn for no reason other than spite. He chose not to be there. You didn't use your child as a pawn to fuck him over and hurt him. Its the girls that do that that I find it completely wrong.
  • @txmoorekat oh I know..it makes me so sad for her child.
  • I have a good friend who has a crazy psycho baby mama that uses his one year old daughter against him. He works 3 jobs and gives her money, offers to take his daughter half time and is a good person overall. His daughter adores him and his side of the family but the crazy b*tch wont let him see his kid from time to time. She is just an ugly person who is always bad mouthing everyone...ugh I can't stand her. It is unfair to him and detrimental to his daughter. It really pisses me off and now he's finally taking her ass to court for custody.
  • This is my case li many of you know I have a 4yo and a2 yo and I'm separate not legally but well I have a couple I
    And I think he has a couple but guess what I'm mom a dad 24/7 he don't care if the kids need stuff or wanna see him he'll not come to pick them up be don't give me a penny since I'm not whit him everytime I ask for money he stop talking for months (yeah he text me to tell me how much he miss me but nothing about his daughter) he's been a pain in my butt and make ours life hard plus he's been getting drunk everynight since I left he has no responsibilities and over my dead body I'll let him take my daughters
  • @jessedenver yeah, that's just not right..I don't have any compassion for girls like that. And I say girl cause that's how she's acting.

    @2girls_1boy see that's understandable..you're not playing get back games with him. You're trying to keep your kids safe. And he isn't showing any desire to want to be there.


  • But I am mom and dad. I'm sorry but when you do nothing you get nothing kids need more than an adult to come over and play when it only fits your schedule. I GO TO ALL DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS I GO ON LATE NIGHT WALGREENS RUNS I MAKE BREAKFAST LUNCH AND DINNER .where is this so called dad one is in prison and the other smoking up his paycheck. A DAD is there equally and doesn't bitch about having to help.
    I don't know about this other girl but there is always more to the stories than have been told by these poor daddies and mommies that supposedly love these kids so much.
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  • @mommi_of2 like I've said to previous posters...im not talking about those who are willing to let the CAPABLE father see his child but the father chooses not to. Im talking about the little girls who play keep away with their child to hurt the other parent or vice versa.

    @mrsg I understand what you're saying. But I find it wrong for someone to keep a child away from their parent when the other parent is CAPABLE and WILLING to take care of their child. Imo. Nothing that my bd can do to our relationship will cause me to be so hurt that I will let it effect the relationship he has with his daughter. If he chooses to fuck it up, that's on him. But i wont come between then if he its capable and wiling to be in her life.
  • I agree with @MrsG touchy subject. I understand were this is coming from but there is always two sides to the story wrong or right always 2 sides. That being said I feel for the parents who are not allowed to be a part of their child's life when they are good people and want to be there. I feel for them and their children.
    Like it was said some reasons are very valid. Mine is difficult but my little girl has known my ex husband as her dad but he is not sperm donor (he knows) I choose the lesser of two evils on that one. Sperm donor is not allowed to see her because he tried to kill me and I fear what he would do to her. My ex husband we didn't work out for multiple reasons but she see's him as Dad and I won't stop that. She says she is lucky she has two daddy's my husband now and my ex husband. I pray she never meets sperm donor because he is very violent and dangerous.
  • @mylittleman2011 like I've said before, there are always acceptions. You're not keeping her away to hurt the sperm donor. You're doing it to protect her. He isn't CAPABLE to care for a child, and it isn't safe for you to be around him.
  • I'm sorry but things like this really strike a nerve with. My daughters father would tell people he tries to come see her I don't allow him. Then I have random people mostly girls emailing me calling me a shitty mom and how could I do that to her she needs her dad. Newsflash he never stopped by to see her going to pick up his fix is what was more important. They use to talk shit when I went to the bars because a good mom doesn't do that. I'm sorry I'm with my daughter all day alone and if my mother is willing yo babysit at night and I can get some me time in there well by all means that's my prerogative. Do you see this mother out there doing those things first hand because of not you really shouldn't judge.

    Not trying to be a bitch I just all to well how gossip goes. But I'm not oblivious either to those that do play those games. Just be sure she is really doing what you accuse her of because you see. It not because someone told you.
  • @mommi_of2 I understand where you're coming from, and this wasn't directed at you. For them to say you're a shitty mom cause you need a break is ridiculous. And for them to say shit to you when they really don't know is ridiculous as well.
    . And I wouldn't say that she does those thing unless I have seen them myself. She told me herself she didn't want him in her daughters life cause he did her wrong and he fucked her over by leaving her. Bitch is crazy, I'm surprised he didn't leave her sooner! But I have seen her do all of those things to her baby, I've even reported it to cps because if that were my child and someone was treating her that way id want someone to report it too, even if it were me doing it. But like I said, I've seen her do these things. And I wouldn't say it if I didn't. Cause unlike a lot of people, I don't listen to the gossip or say something unless I know its a fact. And if I'm not sure then I ask that person about it.
  • @mommi_of2 I understand where you're coming from, and this wasn't directed at you. For them to say you're a shitty mom cause you need a break is ridiculous. And for them to say shit to you when they really don't know is ridiculous as well.
    . And I wouldn't say that she does those thing unless I have seen them myself. She told me herself she didn't want him in her daughters life cause he did her wrong and he fucked her over by leaving her. Bitch is crazy, I'm surprised he didn't leave her sooner! But I have seen her do all of those things to her baby, I've even reported it to cps because if that were my child and someone was treating her that way id want someone to report it too, even if it were me doing it. But like I said, I've seen her do these things. And I wouldn't say it if I didn't. Cause unlike a lot of people, I don't listen to the gossip or say something unless I know its a fact. And if I'm not sure then I ask that person about it.
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