But we don't know that 100% @davidnaadynsmama. Yes, continuing to pursue him was wrong. However, many believe that he followed Martin and Martin then turned to attack him (out of fear?) which led to the shooting of him. The physical evidence the night of the murder corroborates Zimmerman's story. Witnesses corroborate his story. The 911 tapes corroborate his story. You don't just attack someone that has been following you...if someone attacks you, then by all means, fight back. It just doesn't look that way to me and many others. Hell, you may be right. He may have murdered him for no good reason..........but we don't know! None of you or I know that. We can "assume" or believe a certain side, but we can't come out swinging and saying something as if it's fact because right now, it's not.
I just believe, based on the consensus of reports (i wont say facts) that zimmerman acted in a way that wasnt necessary. He had, in my opinion, other options that didnt include killing martin. Martin did not come up to him & attack him from the start. Zimmermin forced an altercation that didnt need to occur and most likely never would have if he just called 911 and stayed where he was. Or stayed IN the car instead of getting out. To me, killing in self defense is for when there are no other options. I feel very strongly that he indeed had other options.
Trayvon weighed 140 zimmerman like 220. And I haven't read anywhere that he ever dealt drugs. And zimmerman attacked first based on witnesses so im not sure what ur reading. Not to mention I don't think obama would mention this case if its something that isn't completely obvious. Did he ever talk about casey anthony? Dont think so
Casey anthony is a whole different story, and was without a doubt, guilty as sin. Just because jurors found her not guilty, doesnt mean they found her innocent. Also, when you asked @captivated what shes been reading, I think that just shows that there are many mixed reports. Some completely in favor of martin, and some in favor of zimmerman. I personally have.my own beliefs on the matter but I can understand why some people are unsure or choose to believe the opposite @lafiitz89
Sorry if I came across as brash on the Obama statement. I honestly found it hilarious though!
@davidnaadynsmama, I don't know what Casey Anthony even has to do with this story? I agree totally different story. I just feel that people are placing this story up there with Rodney King... 8-| Just personal opinion. And you're right about the stories. I've probably read HUNDREDS of blogs and articles in the last few days since I last posted my thoughts on Martin and Zimmerman. I don't focus on just one side, but everyone's beliefs. That's why I made this, there are so many conflicting stories that I don't know what to believe or where to stand.
Yea the casey anthony comment came out of left field lol. And as far as obama, he knows just as much about this mess as the rest of us. Even though he commented, it doesnt make his opinion fact. As ive said, I believe he murdered that boy but that is an opinion and no more important than the opinions of news reports from the media
@captivated even if he was a drug dealer ect ect that's irrelevant! Did they find drugs on him no! Zimmerman did not know who this kid was or what he did all he knew was he seen a young black boy in a hoody who "LOOKED suspicious" listen to the 911 call had he known he would have mentioned it don't you think? So really he had no motive to pursue the boy smh! And lmao you don't attack a stranger that has been following you and just runs up to you I guess you just stand still and let them kill you easily!
@hot2cold97, I've heard the 911 tapes. They are not the entire tapes. The important parts of the tapes have not been released as they are evidence for trial. You are forming an opinion without knowing all of the facts pertaining to the case.
Anyways, the entire point about the PD doing "nothing" is irrelevant. The governor of Florida has called in an outside team of investigators to investigate and get their case together. So saying the Sanford PD is "racist" or "biased" isn't a valid argument anymore considering they cannot hold the investigation and do not have jurisdiction.
@davidnaadynsmama, considering over half of every word coming out of Obama's mouth are lies, I don't find any of his views regarding this valid. Especially with an upcoming election )
I like debating with you! You don't get all bent out of shape for others having different opinions and beliefs. >:D<
Not to mention I the first 911 call he says trayvon was a ” fuckin coon”.... While following him. Its a cold blooded murder. I'm not changing my mind. And they are comparing it to casey anthony because floridas laws suck and people get away with murder
Lol I like debating with you too. Even though I have strong beliefs, im open minded enough to realize why others feel differently. Theres no sense in getting upset over someones right to their own (different) opinions. I like that you can speak your mind in an intelligent way without getting pissy that someone doesnt agree with you
@lafiitz89 floridas law had nothing to do with why casey anthony wasnt convicted. As far as zimmerman, many states have similar laws on self defense. Its not necessarily the law thats the problem, its the way its interpreted, and mixed reports
Yes, @davidnaadynsmama, you're right! Florida law didn't have one iota to do with her acquittal. She was acquitted because the prosecution did not prove their case. I watched the entire trial beginning to end and they didn't show once that Casey murdered her daughter. In my opinion, I don't think she murdered her...I think she was negligent and it led to her death, however the prosecution couldn't even prove that (and that's just an opinion, I don't have many facts to back that up). Their case was a fiasco. I am glad that she was found not guilty because I don't believe in someone going away for life when the case wasn't proven. I'd rather have a guilty man go free than an innocent man spend his life in jail. However, I hope karma comes and hits her hard...poor excuse of a woman.
And as for the coon comment, that is also argumentative. I listened to it and initially thought that. As I listened to it over and over again, it sounds more like "f'in punk". See, there's just no steadfast answer or facts right now. Let them investigate and prosecute him. Getting sent up in arms about race and having your children hold up posters saying "please don't kill me" is so ridiculous to me.
@LaFiiTz89 the family spokesperson releaseda statement that he had beeb in trouble for drugs. Also, the thing I found interesting was you said he was on the phone w his gf and zimmerman was on the phone w 911. You said his witness could have been racist and lied. Couldnt his gf have also lied?
@mollysmama, his family has also been less than forthcoming. As soon as it happened, they instantly had his FB deleted so that the media could not get ahold of his posts and pictures. What was there to hide? Most families keep their loved one's facebooks up and running so people can comment and reminisce. Not that it is any reason for an "innocent" young adult to be killed. If that is indeed what happened.
@captivated people are so quick to call crimes racist. But then how many times have others been called crackers hicks rednecks white trash...etc. "Lets go make these cracker tshirts to show how racist this guy was!"....FAIL!
This whole thing makes me sick... and then Jesse Jackson raving and ranting about the race card... all the sudden the guys address it "out there" for anyone to "go pay a visit"... Thats such HORSEPOOP. A few years ago (I forget the guys name, an older white guy) but he shot and killed 2 black men for breaking into his house. Jesse Jackson went on a rant about how we "can't be judge, jury, and executioner"... yet NOW he's calling for Zimmermans blood? Come on... I'm so tired of this white black hispanic crap. Should the kid have been killed? No. But like everyone keeps saying, there are SO many facts missing, who are you to judge? You don't know what happened... Zimmerman was the one calling for help, not the kid. Zimmerman took a beating as well, for whatever reason. This case shouldn't be as blown up as it is. Stupid race card.
I also don't see an outrage by Trayvon supporters over this T-shirt...would there be more of an outrage if the shirt said "P*ssy A** Ni**ers" with a pic of Trayvon? Just sayin...
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Also, when you asked @captivated what shes been reading, I think that just shows that there are many mixed reports. Some completely in favor of martin, and some in favor of zimmerman. I personally have.my own beliefs on the matter but I can understand why some people are unsure or choose to believe the opposite @lafiitz89
@davidnaadynsmama, I don't know what Casey Anthony even has to do with this story? I agree totally different story. I just feel that people are placing this story up there with Rodney King... 8-| Just personal opinion. And you're right about the stories. I've probably read HUNDREDS of blogs and articles in the last few days since I last posted my thoughts on Martin and Zimmerman. I don't focus on just one side, but everyone's beliefs. That's why I made this, there are so many conflicting stories that I don't know what to believe or where to stand.
As ive said, I believe he murdered that boy but that is an opinion and no more important than the opinions of news reports from the media
Anyways, the entire point about the PD doing "nothing" is irrelevant. The governor of Florida has called in an outside team of investigators to investigate and get their case together. So saying the Sanford PD is "racist" or "biased" isn't a valid argument anymore considering they cannot hold the investigation and do not have jurisdiction.
I like debating with you! You don't get all bent out of shape for others having different opinions and beliefs. >:D<
And as for the coon comment, that is also argumentative. I listened to it and initially thought that. As I listened to it over and over again, it sounds more like "f'in punk". See, there's just no steadfast answer or facts right now. Let them investigate and prosecute him. Getting sent up in arms about race and having your children hold up posters saying "please don't kill me" is so ridiculous to me.
Just came across this on FB. Opinions....GO.
Also, the thing I found interesting was you said he was on the phone w his gf and zimmerman was on the phone w 911. You said his witness could have been racist and lied. Couldnt his gf have also lied?
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